tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post1178957426566127170..comments2024-01-15T04:39:32.375-08:00Comments on Red Spade Audio: Introducing the Econowave speakerPaul Spencerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07514836858344391753noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-90106704154857629292011-09-22T21:34:26.881-07:002011-09-22T21:34:26.881-07:00The Selenium D220Ti's are not bad at all, thou...The Selenium D220Ti's are not bad at all, though they have a very etched, detailed sound which some people may or may not like. I imagine they would sound excellent with a SET amp. I own the DE-250 as well, they are both good drivers for their price range.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-43304814940046885252011-05-09T20:34:46.910-07:002011-05-09T20:34:46.910-07:00I'd recommend that you cite the source for the...I'd recommend that you cite the source for the photos used in this article. Those were taken by Evan "Zilch" Flavell in his workshop Zilchlab. The speaker under development in the photos uses a 10" X 14" waveguide that we sourced from QSC and a kit trap cabinet from Parts Express that I discovered. Zilch passed away a few months ago and will be missed.<br />http://www.classicspeakerpages.net/IP.Board/index.php?showtopic=6208RossinDetroithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16240102870398060564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-394181800040676342011-05-09T20:27:11.506-07:002011-05-09T20:27:11.506-07:00Howdy from Detroit. I just stumbled on this site ...Howdy from Detroit. I just stumbled on this site while looking for measurements of foam-filled waveguides. I've been involved with the original Econowave thread on Audio Karma since 2008 and was the Speakers forum mod on the site for a while. I've built 4 or 5 pairs of E-wave speakers. 3 of them are based on the common Large Advent vintage speaker. 2 years ago I wrote a feature article on Econowaves for Make Magazine, an O'Reilly publication. It's online as well as in print now.<br />I've used exclusively the Selenium D220Ti and D210Ti drivers although I've owned and tried the DE250 and DE10. The Seleniums are regularly under $80US/pair here which makes them too cheap to pass up. I find that the foam filling makes a big difference in the top end fizziness of the Ti drivers.RossinDetroithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16240102870398060564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-29827508746008753092011-04-04T10:49:51.156-07:002011-04-04T10:49:51.156-07:00Paul, thanks for your reply. Too bad the Pyle and ...Paul, thanks for your reply. Too bad the Pyle and the likes are hard to obtain in Europe. The Seleniums (about which many people speak very favorably) and the Daytons are already on their way, so I'll just try and make the best of it. If it doesn't turn out well, I might try and have the Pyles shipped. Thanks again and keep blogging!Martijn Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02176787713255692439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-22761892156992352812011-04-04T07:31:47.200-07:002011-04-04T07:31:47.200-07:00Martijn,
The other drivers are far better. Having...Martijn, <br />The other drivers are far better. Having heard them one after the other, D220 is quite harsh in comparison to DE250 and the other drivers featured in our waveguide shoot outs. The difference is certainly worth spending more. Likewise the round Dayton had noticeable horn honk and a little more harshness. The Pyle in Australia is dirt cheap but we didn't notice horn coloration and there was less harshness. It was the value leader of the group and even worked quite well where the better drivers with an adaptor was used. It's a good idea to add some damping, but I'd suggest you start with the Pyle which I found to be a better sounding waveguide. If budget is tight, then I'd consider some of the cheaper B&C units but as a general rule I'm wary of titanium - polyester, mylar and polyimide seem to sound smoother.Paul Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07514836858344391753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-22258900687269831552011-04-04T06:30:45.036-07:002011-04-04T06:30:45.036-07:00I've been searching through your blog, but I c...I've been searching through your blog, but I can't find why the Selenium D220 actually is not a good choice? It's quite a bit more affordable than the alternatives. <br /><br />Also, the Dayton WG's seem to measure very well. Why are they not recommended? I understand they are cheapish plastic, but can't you just dampen the waveguide?Martijn Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02176787713255692439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-4853528881305720002011-02-09T22:06:23.244-08:002011-02-09T22:06:23.244-08:00My advice is firstly choose a version that does no...My advice is firstly choose a version that does not use a titanium diaphragm. B&C DE250 is a good choice, although it's a bolt on type and costs more, around $350 a pair shipped US to Au. You could get a pair of mids for about the same and the rest should do the box and crossover. I'd pick up MiniDSP and a cheap low power amp for the tweeter and do it active, then pick the parts you like and can get a good deal on. <br /><br />If you want to do a passive version, I don't know of a version that combines the B&C with an easy to get waveguide, but it could be there in the threads. You would have to ask.Paul Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07514836858344391753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-25612525771588720572011-02-09T13:49:34.207-08:002011-02-09T13:49:34.207-08:00Which combo (tweeter, horn and 12 inch woofer) wou...Which combo (tweeter, horn and 12 inch woofer) would make great sound and be under 1000$.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-15005966691253430552010-12-05T03:37:12.577-08:002010-12-05T03:37:12.577-08:00good to see! I'm following your progress on th...good to see! I'm following your progress on the audiokarma forum (I also just posted there as I'm upgrading my woofers to Delta 12LFA).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-7340745845514756582010-11-14T15:39:36.678-08:002010-11-14T15:39:36.678-08:00Thanks for that link minirig. Here's my planne...Thanks for that link minirig. Here's my planned attempt of Econowave with DSP:<br /><br />http://gainphile.blogspot.com/2010/11/s15-econowave-dsp.htmlgainphilenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8689487740107692135.post-75339129760576695782010-11-13T07:37:39.972-08:002010-11-13T07:37:39.972-08:00I made some econowaves last year and very happy wi...I made some econowaves last year and very happy with them.. once I saw the light and used the Selenium comp. drivers.<br /><br />http://minirig.org.au/2010/01/26/cheapowave-speaker-build-mk-ii-econowave/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com